is the topic that everybody knows they should do but nobody’s doing—follow-up. Most
people fail in follow-up—restaurants, accountants. Heck, even my barber fails
So what exactly is a follow-up? Follow-up is a multiple-channel approach. In some studies, getting a customer takes a minimum of seven touches, while others say it’s around fifteen. But it’s going to take a whole bunch of reaching out to get a person from not interested, to engaging with you.
Most Businesses Don’t Follow-up Enough
people are able to do one or two follow-ups, and that’s where about 90% of businesses
stop. You followed up but they didn’t answer your phone call. They’re not ready
yet. They give you some excuse because they were too busy and didn’t really
want to talk to you, so you never call them back. Or maybe you call them back
one more time and you get their voicemail and you say to yourself, “That’s
it. He must not be interested…he must hate me…he must not like me…he must
know it’s me and they’re not responding…I must have done something wrong.”
our doubts come in because it’s easier to stop following up and make excuses. You’ve
probably made these excuses yourself. I’ve done it many times, but I’ve also
not made the mistake and had wonderful surprises. I had, for instance, found
out that the guy had just gone on holidays and turned off the cellphone for
three weeks, and he’s so happy that I called because now he’s ready.
Why Some Follow-ups Don’t Work
comes to follow-ups, one of the first things that a lot of business people
think of is automation. They assume automation
could do all the follow-ups for them, that they can just dump them into an
email series and let it follow up them forever. “Oh, and I can make it
HTML-formatted, and I can have banners and pictures and videos in all of my
emails, ’cause that’ll make it better.”
most people these days read their emails on their phone. Imagine you’re
traveling in, say, the United States. You’re roaming, and somebody sends you an
email. You opened it, and it starts to auto-play a video that’s sucking the
life out of your roaming rates of your data package. You won’t be so happy,
would you? Always be mindful of what you’re sending out in follow-ups.
What Makes a Good Follow-up?
1. Multiple touch. This is key when doing follow-ups. Multiple
touch means if you’re phoning, make sure you have a system to remind you when
to phone next and what you said last time. In amongst your phone calls, there
should be some kind of an automated or semi-automated email going out or some
LinkedIn reaching out going on.
2. Value-added. You really want to try to figure out a
way to have ‘value-added’ follow-up. It’s not as simple as calling them up,
asking if they’re ready to buy yet. You want to feed them helpful information. The
80/20 rule still applies in follow-ups. Eighty percent needs to be just good
old-fashioned information—valuable, helpful stuff. Twenty percent can be your sales
pitch. You don’t want an overt sales pitch. Writing a big long email that’s
actually an underhanded ‘trying-to-be-a-sales-pitch-without-being-a-sales-pitch’
won’t work because your customers see right through that and would disengage.
Follow Up on Multiple ‘Touch Points’
Email nowadays takes about three and a half days on average to be opened and read. So again, it’s best to get some kind of a system. We recommend Small Business Dream, or some kind of follow-up system that’s going to deal with your automated emails, semi-automated emails, LinkedIn reach out, phone calls, and so on.
you’re a fully digital company or not, phone calls is very much a part of business.
Picking up the phone and talking to somebody is still one of your best ways to
connect. It also helps move things forward. Have a system that lets you know
who you need to call today and why, and what you said last time.
proper contact manager working for you, one that’s connected to being able to
send emails easily. Add them to a LinkedIn series or an SMS series, or in our
case, we have the ability for clients to put an app on their customers’ phones
and send push notifications directly to those people.
really want to work on your follow-up, and follow up enough. Typically, 7 to 15
touches is the magic number. That means a phone call and an email, and then
maybe another phone call and then a text message, and so on. You’ll never know
which ones they’d prefer connecting to, so spread it around the medium. You
need to divert your systems to only working that way but stay keeping in touch.
Build an Email Strategy
Tip #1: Create an email list
should have an email list. If you don’t have an email list, you’re losing probably
one of the biggest pieces of gold. I don’t care what business you’re in.
Collect an email list, whether it’s a free
newsletter that’s going to give them tips and tricks on the stuff that you know
about, or just a, “Hey, jump on our mailing list so that we can send you
periodic updates about what we’re up to.” You want to cultivate that
Tip #2: Semi-automate your messages
are ways to automate text messages nowadays. The more effective method is doing
a personalized text message. Automation works best if it goes undetected. Best
way to do it is to not be completely automated. You can have a message that has
the bulk of what you want to say and just put that one sentence that’s
personalized. “Hi (insert name), it was so great seeing the other day at (insert
place or event).” Once you have that mailing list, you really need to start
using it, and use it differently whether it’s an existing customer or a prospect
that might be a customer.
Tip #3: Connect often
the number one mistake people make with their mailing lists of prospects is
they don’t email often enough. “Oh, if I email them more than once a
month, they’ll get angry and remove themselves.” This actually happens when
you’re sending them content they don’t want. But if you’re giving them good
value, they are more likely to stay.
Tip #4: Give them value each time
If I knocked on your door at 3 o’clock in the afternoon, and you opened the door and I handed you $100, would you be happy that you saw me? If the next day at 3 o’clock I knocked on your door and hand you $100, would you be happy? What would happen on the next day? You’d probably be standing by your door at 3 o’clock hoping that I would knock on the door because I’m giving you value every time.
Now what if I knocked on your door at 3 o’clock, and again at 5 o’clock with a hundred-dollar bill, would you open the door? You’d probably say to me, “Can you just come by like every five minutes? I got a couple of friends that are with me. You can knock on their doors too.” If you’re giving them value, they will open up that ‘door’ (your email) every time. If you’re not giving the value, they’ll unsubscribe.
they’re not opening your email every time, they will create a nice neat little
folder where all of your stuff gets dumped into, and when they’re ready to go
and see what kind of good stuff you were sending, then they’ll go look. So,
it’s important to be sending emails often enough with value.
Create Good Value for Less
thinking value is hard, you don’t have to have 395 pieces of value-generated
content. You just start recycling it with different headlines. So now, when you
send it over and over for the guy who did watch it twice or three times, and he
still hasn’t bought yet, nothing is lost. He hasn’t bought anything anyway. But
what about the guy that finally read that third time because the headline got
him to open it, sees that information for the first time, and decides to engage
We find the same thing on our previous blog on LinkedIn system. It’s not the first time we send them a message. Not the second time. It’s like two weeks, three weeks, a month later when they finally go, “Oh, you know what? I haven’t been on LinkedIn for the last two weeks. I just got your message.” And they know you mean business because you’re different than all the other people that click the ‘connect with me’ on LinkedIn button and never talk to them again.
Plain Text vs. HTML-Formatted Emails
briefly talked about a nicely fully formatted HTML email versus not. As we said
earlier, most people have their pictures turned off. They’ll not see your
pictures and they don’t enable that on a download when they open up your email.
Besides, when was the last time you’ve ever opened up a perfectly formatted
HTML email that wasn’t trying to sell you something?
really funny is you have a lot of software packages out there—emailing
automation software packages—and in order to create value for you knowing that
you don’t know what you’re doing, you’ve come to them to buy software to do it
for you, and knowing that you’re most likely the person who thinks, “If I
make it all graphically and pretty and corporate people will love it,” you’re
likely to be very excited that you found a tool that you have a million
when you actually a/b test emails and you send out fully HTML formatted with
lots of graphics and all that kind of stuff, since most people are looking
around a phone, it’s really hard to make it look good. And, again, you’re eating
up their data.
the end, it doesn’t work because it’s an obvious app. Where if it’s a really
quick, “Hey, I was just running out the door…” and you make a spelling
error and, “I really just wanted to connect with you because I found this really
cool article about bluefish,” and I know you’re the guy that loves bluefish, all
of a sudden you’re going to get an engagement. You’re going to create a
relationship over that, and that actually had nothing to do with what you sell.
it had a PS line, but probably not. If it has a PS line it needs to look like
your iPhone had a PS line. So, fully formatted doesn’t usually work. Simple, to
the point, well-written, copywritten emails with the right word balances, and a
message that feels good for the person receiving it, gives them help is a lot better.
You may, however, send one every ten emails that’s HTML-formatted.
Examples of Follow-ups and Key Takeaways
for your Small Business
1. Carpet Store
a follow-up series for a carpet store—one at three months, one at six months
and one in a year. It took us ten
minutes to write, cost us zero dollars to add to the system, and it would go
out fully automatic. He was reluctant because he thought that if somebody doesn’t
buy carpet when they come into a carpet store and they don’t buy it within the
month, they’ve already gone somewhere else. They’re not going to buy from him.
argument was, with Vancouver’s real estate and the cost of housing, building
permits take forever to get. So, to legitimately do a complete reno that might
be a whole house-full of carpet, you might be six months before you get the
permit to allow you to even install the carpet. Long story short, after
implementing this within a very short period of time, somebody got the 3-month
email, their permits came just in for a $14,000 sale.
It’s typical in the carpet industry to have commission somewhere between 8-10%. It was a pretty significant amount of money for just putting in a little email. And I have to say, that steak and lobster that I received as a ‘thank you’ for pushing him to make that email is one of the finest in Vancouver.
2. Software Business
MLM software business, we have email follow-up of prospects. The record is set
at about eleven years before someone was finally ready. We didn’t even send enough emails. Nothing
for months at a time. Eventually, we only sent them an annual follow-up. We
didn’t know back then that I could pester them every single day and it’ll just
be ignored until they’re ready, or they’ll remove themselves.
cares? It makes no difference because they’re not a customer. But when you’re
the only person following up, they knew the customer service would be there as
well. (Same thing happened in the carpet store. Even though the carpet may not
have been the cheapest, but the follow-up was there. The customer service was
there at the beginning.)
precedents that you care enough. The Small Business Dream system sends out a
‘Happy Birthday’ card, a ‘Merry Christmas’ card, and it used to send out
anniversary cards (we stopped sending anniversary cards because people sometimes
get into marital strife or divorce and we’re inadvertently picking at the scab).
We are now doing LinkedIn’s method of anniversary and consider anniversary to be
their work anniversary, or the anniversary of when you first signed up to our
these were just things that made somebody, after 11 year goes, “You know
what? You send me a birthday card every year and you’re so amazing.”
3. Real Estate
I bought eight rental properties, which turned out cash flow positive—all from separate real estate agents. Why? I have a rule as a salesperson and as a student of loving selling. I don’t want to do business with someone who doesn’t follow up. When they did follow up, they were following up with comparables in the area or some very obvious super-canned RE/MAX or Century 21 system that they’re connected to, and it wasn’t personal. It didn’t teach me anything, and they weren’t like, “Hey Dennis, how’s the rental property working out for you? Did you find tenants?” Nothing…just gone. So, I would buy the next one from the next guy, hoping he’d follow up. Not one had followed up after the sale, or if they had, they’d followed up in a way that was completely disengaging.
One of the things we teach in the book, the Small Business Profitability Secrets is how to be a better realtor and how to frame your words your customer likes. Real estate agents need to make that point to their clients. The problem is their clients have no idea what the difference is, nor do they care to hear the explanation.
up with a different way of follow-up that helps realtors like crazy—it becomes
a home maintenance tip list. It’s a free thing that everyone can sign up to. It
sends them out in the summertime and what summer home maintenance things you
can be doing. Just before winter it tells you, “Hey, maybe you should get
your furnace checked,” or maybe, “You should get your air conditioner
checked…you should get your carpets cleaned two years after you bought your
house.” It just gives a bunch of stuff that makes everybody excited to get
your next email because it’s going to remind them about something to keep their
house in tip-top shape.
means they stay engaged for seven years. Not only they stay engaged, but they
refer their friends to your amazing house tip. Now you’ve got people telling
people about you, and you’re in their face all the time once a month, twice a
month. You’re in their face with things that are beneficial to them. Who do you
think they’re going to call when they hear someone saying, “I need to find
a real estate agent broker”? They’re going to find the persons that was
people make a big mistake of stopping their follow up when they make the sale.
They think, “That’s it…sale’s done…I don’t need to follow up.” You
need to continue if they’re on your initial prospecting list, offering things
and constantly educating them. If, for instance, they turned into a
product-specific customer, obviously that one would stop once they purchased
it, unless it’s something that can be repurchased.
depends what it was after the sale. Is it a re-purchasable item and you need to
remind them every month to get it again, or is it something that you buy once
every seven years? If so, then you better find a way to keep them interested in
you for seven years for when they’re ready to buy again.
You need to have the ability, once the sale is made, to decide, “Are you sending them into training for that product? Are you just continuing with the general newsletter that gives lots of value and promotes every new thing you have to them every now and then when it’s there?” It really depends. But there’s no question about you needing to follow up on them after the sale was made. Follow up is critical to business. Talk to sales and marketing automation expert about how you can make sure you follow up after the sale because that’s actually where the gold is. Getting them the first time is very expensive. You better keep selling to them. Check us out at smallbizdream.com where you can learn more about our Small Business Sales Blueprint.